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- From: "Thomas D. Wason" <wason@nando.net>
- Newsgroups: comp.edu,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
- Subject: Re: C or C++ for a 14-year old? The definitive reply
- Date: 29 Jan 1996 22:59:25 GMT
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- felinoid@ccnet.com (Jeffery C McLean) wrote:
- >Alberto C Moreira (amoreira@nine.com) wrote:
- >: babycox@aol.com (BabyCox) wrote:
- >
- >: >> Also, if you still find DOS confusing, programming isn't for you. I see
- >: >a lot
- >: >> of kids who want to learn programming or at least brag about their
- >: >abilities
- >: >> with computers, but really these kids are just fat lazy dorks who think
- >: >there
- >: >> cool cause they download hacking programs from AOL.
- >
- >: >I find this very insulting, I am a 14 year old (not a kid). I learned
- >: >BASIC, before I was in school, learned Logo in first grade, and am now
- >: >very proficent C++. I am not lazy, I am not a dork, and I do not see many
- >: >other teenage programmers that would fit either of thes descriptions, and
- >: >I don't appreciate people who resort to name calling just to prove a
- >: >point.
- >
- >
- >: Go, guy! Some grown ups out here actually agree with you.
- >
- >When I was 17 a teacher in HiSchool was trying to covence everyone
- >(Felow students, my parents etc) that I didn't know computers
- >and that I couldn't posably know computers. Eventualy she showed the truth
- >is she was JUST learning how to USE a computer and felt a little challanged
- >by the fact that a student in her class knew more than her.
- >My mother even presented a fist full of letters from computer experts
- >a University Prosesor and a congratulations on winning first prise
- >in our contest letter...
- > This stuff should be enough to get me a job NOW... but I was 17
- >and as far as that teacher was conserned no one could know computers
- >and not be in Colage...
- > Well things have changed but I still kinda get anoyed when
- >an adult said kids are just bragging when they talk computer programming.
- > I am 26 now... Ok I am JUST NOW Learning C... My pore Vic20
- >didn't do C... It did Basic and ML... so I learned both... and Forth
- >(Got a Forth language cart later)
- > I feal kids SHOULD learn programming early....
- >I also feal thies adults who hold kids away from computers should get
- >a dose of reality... "Computers stifle creativity"
- >I don't think ANYONE who knows computers would make THAT clame... That one
- >comes from artests who rely on "traditional matreals"....
- >I don't think anyone ever said painting stifles creativity... or music...
- >computer artests would easly chalange that notion anyway...
- > Jeff
- >--
- >felinoid@ccnet.com
- >http://www.ccnet.com/~felinoid/
-
- I presume your poor spelling is a put on. HOWEVER. Programming is not all that hard.
- I find it a relaxing interlude to real thinking. Program *design* is something else, and I
- see few who can do it well. I think good program design requires a broader background.
- That's called an education. Yes, I agree that peoople should be taught how to program as
- young as they want to learn, but they should realize it is only a tool--often badly used.
- The language is not all that important--you learn one, you can learn the next. Pick
- an easy one to start. Students should also be taught how to use a wordprocesser. That does
- not make them good authors, however.
-
- --Tom
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